Robert Spencer and Christine Williams were brought to speak about Multiculturalism and Islam and western civilization, by a group called ‘Concerned Canadians for Canadian Values'(CCFCV). http://www.ccfcv.ca/
1:06:30 to2:07:23 = Question and Answer where Robert and/or Christine answers.
The Founder and Leader, Stephen J Garvey, of the National Advancement Party of Canada was at this presentation:
Here is another political party in Canada, but they were not at the presentation:
The testimony of Yasmine Mohammed, the former wife of a jihadi and tortured daughter of honour-bound Islamic parents, was startling and silenced the Liberal and NDP representatives. In addition, Statistics Canada representatives confirmed that the number of hate crimes in Canada was too small and insignificant to support an assertion that a rising “climate of hate and fear” existed in the country. A summary of all testimony follows here.
Aurangzeb Qureshi, Vice-President, Public Policy and Communications, Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council, stated that his organization began in 2014 on the heels of several hate crimes against Muslims in the province of Alberta. As an organization, they consult on behalf of Alberta Muslims with government agencies, work on an “Andalusia” curriculum for provincial educational agencies that highlights eras of cooperation between Muslim and non-Muslim communities and operate a help “hotline” to report incidents of Islamophobia and hate crimes to authorities. The hotline has received over 400 calls over the past year with most incidents being related to the wearing of the hijab. He went on to state that current laws make it very difficult to prosecute hate crimes as the threshold for proving same is too high. He wanted these thresholds to be lowered to make convictions an easier prospect. He felt that Islamophobia was a systemic issue and therefore needed to be addressed through federally funded educational programs. By way of example, he pointed to AMPAC’s “Andalusia” program that taught how Muslims, Christians and Jews had lived together in harmony in the past. He did not point out, however, that this era was bound up by an Islamic doctrine, manifested in the form of Sharia Law, that forced Jews and Christians, as non-Muslim “people of the book”, to pay humiliation taxes (Jizya) and forego the outward practice of their religions. He went on to state that AMPAC had excellent relations with police agencies as they almost always took their side against opposing groups. He still felt, however, that RCMP and CSIS personnel required sensitivity training regards dealing with minority groups. Lastly, he recommended the introduction of mental health programs to better accommodate the needs of refugees arriving in Canada from war torn areas of the world. Under questioning by MP Virani, he affirmed that there are media outlets, like the Rebel as MP Virani suggested, that try to exploit situations and place Muslims in a bad light.
Faisal Khan Suri, President, Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council, under questioning from MP Virani, stated there was much room for interfaith initiatives, such as the AMPAC’s “Adalusia” program, and funding to build and empower the capacities of communities to participate in such dialogues. He also agreed that “hotlines” were a great way to contribute to the data base of complaints that could inform government agencies on the size and scope of racism and discrimination in Canada. On response to questioning from MP Jenny Kwan, he agreed that NGOs such as his should link up with a National Action Plan or strategy to help provide data on hate-based crimes against his own community.
Karim Achab, Professor of linguistics, University of Ottawa, as an individual, addressed the word Islamophobia by stressing the need to understand where to draw the line between “rational” and “irrational” hatred. Furthermore, the term phobia implies, by definition, a psychosis or disorder deserving of medical help rather than a law to combat it. Additionally, it is necessary for this disorder to exist in opposition to the reality of the situation. Given these understandings, he felt the term Islamophobia was completely inappropriate for use in a parliamentary setting where laws are reviewed, amended and manufactured. He then posed the question of whether or not it was fair to accuse those who believed the term Islamophobia was inappropriate as being racist, white supremacists or simply conservatives hiding under the skirt of free speech. He believed such characterizations were unfair as there were, indeed, rational reasons to fear Islam given the violent exhortations of the Koran. Under questioning from MP Reid, he affirmed that the ideology of Islam is tightly wound up with the religion and that there needed to be an understanding of where one began and the other left off. He used the example of Islam’s admonishment for followers to emigrate and spread the religion en mass in concert with the activities of jihadists whose job it was to follow through with more violent tactics if need be.
Yasmine Mohammed, author, as an individual, was born and raised in Canada and wore a hijab from the age of nine. She wore the niqab after being forced into marriage to a jihadi. In all that time, she experienced no discrimination or racism due to her appearance. She considers herself to be privileged to be a Canadian. In the matter of M-103, she felt the motion will do the exact opposite of what is intended. She believes the motion will feed, rather than quell, the fire as the term Islamophobia is about protecting the religion of Islam rather than those who practise it. She also believed that Canadians are right to fear the ideology that comes with Islam as it is an ideology that terrorizes and kills every day. Muslims, she noted, are blase on the killings as they are used to the Islamists, in the form of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the jihadis, in the form of al Qaeda and ISIS, that promote and action it. She knew this as she had been married to a member of al Qaeda and had his baby. This was not so for Canadians however as it was all new to them. They had a right to be concerned and want to talk about the ideas that they are now confronting and to do so through civil discourse. The term Islamophobia is quashing that natural and healthy desire to understand what is going on in the world around them. You must not ask why thirteen Islamic nations execute homosexuals or why it is that the overwhelming majority of girls in Egypt or Sudan suffer Female Genital Mutilation. “Isalmophobia” was not around when she was a child but it was the reason that a judge returned her to her family at the age of thirteen knowing that she had been hung upside down in her family’s garage and had the bottoms of her feet whipped. The judge sent her back because he explained that different cultures have different ways of disciplining children. It was then she wished she had been born white as her culture had treated her so cruelly. She explained that that judge was, in truth, extremely bigoted as he chose to treat her differently than any other Canadian kid – unacceptable. And so it is with M-103, a good intention rife with terrible, unintended consequences. She explained that we needed to be careful and that “we cannot be so open minded that we let our brains fall out.”. The term islamophobia will only serve to counter the good intentions behind M-103 even as it curtails the right to criticize and even ridicule religions and ideologies. She thought the term needed to go or be amended to “anti-Muslim bigotry”. Under questioning from MP Reid, she noted that the West is trying to re-invent the wheel without understanding the difference between Muslims, Islamists and jihadis. She suggested we look to Muslim countries to see how they have approached and dealt with these factions – all of which were Muslim but some of which posed very real and dangerous security consequences if left unrecognized.
Yvan Clermont, Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics,
Statistics Canada, presented the most recent data on hate crime statistics in Canada. The latest are from 2015 and the next release of 2016 data will occur towards the end of November, 2017. He stated that Canada is becoming a very diverse nation and that by 2036 three in ten Canadians will be foreign born with a mother tongue of neither French nor English. His presentation was very technical in nature with a raft of numbers and percentages being unloaded. It was interesting to note that the numbers involved were generally in the order of “hundreds” occurring within a population of some 36 million.The increase in hate crimes against Muslims over the period 2013 to 2014, for example, went from 99 to 159 – a percentage increase of some 61% but within a Canadian Muslim population of some 1 million persons. He noted that the offenders accused of committing hate crimes on a religious basis were over represented by youths – the vast majority of which were male. He provided no further background information on these young males and it was later noted that there was a gap in information when it came to offenders and what their motivations were.
Rebecca Kong, Chief, Policing Services Program, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada, under questioning, agreed that the number of hate crimes was small and that a small number of increases or decreases either way could largely impact the percentages involved. Under questioning from MP Sweet as to whether the numbers indicated a “rising climate of hate and fear”, she agreed that the numbers were rather small and incapable of supporting such an assertion but that some of the groups involved were experiencing differing rates of increase.
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Canada’s aggressive multiculturalism is backed by an official Multiculturalism Act. Religious accommodation has become the norm (the most grating example of which might be widespread Muslim prayer in allegedly secular public schools) and is often enforced by extrajudicial human rights tribunals whose liberal definition of hate and discrimination strike some as practically an invitation to “lawfare” or “jihad by court.” It costs a complainant nothing to make an accusation through a human rights tribunal, even if the complaint is dismissed. The accused, in contrast, even if acquitted, is left holding the bag in terms of stress, time, and often large sums of money in legal fees. The weasel-word “Islamophobia,” designed to conflate the criticism of Islam with discrimination against Muslims, is already touted as a great evil to be resisted at Canadian schools, colleges, universities, and other institutions. Motion M-103 gave it oxygen; a follow-up bill would give it wings. Indeed, Canada is low-hanging fruit for the stealth implementation of Sharia law in the West.
Shahen Mirakian, President (by videoconference: Toronto, Ontario), Armenian National Committee of Canada, began the testimonies by stressing the importance of advocacy groups in advancing the cause of combating racism and discrimination. By way of example, he cited the Armenian earthquake of 1998 and how the Armenian National Committee of Canada sprung into action to collect desperately needed supplies and financial support. It did so by coordinating support from government, commercial and private citizen inputs and set a disaster relief framework in place that is in use today. He noted that other advocacy and faith groups had pioneered such strategies in the past with their communities of concern and have all had positive impacts on both the communities served and Canada. In a similar fashion, these advocacy groups are in a position to help with the fight against racism and discrimination as they are aware of policies, rules and regulations that contribute to both. He recommended that Members of Parliament be used as an advocacy group asset by acting as touchstones that coordinate and bring these groups together. He also recommended that some funding currently directed to aiding inter-cultural dialogue be re-directed to build up the capacity of smaller advocacy groups so that they are better able to enter into meaningful dialogue.
Robert Kuhn, President, Trinity Western University stated that Trinity Western University was the largest faith-based university in the country with more than 4000 students. He noted that the university has maintained an A+ quality status for seven years running and 65% of its students are involved in community service and outreach programs. He suggested that the Committee might be surprised that such a successful organization would be subjected to discrimination and exclusion by virtue of the Christian values that reside at its core. He went on to discuss examples of such religious discrimination including the decision of multiple law societies to restrict its graduates from serving within their jurisdictions. This, in direct opposition to Supreme Court decisions (2001) that demand that no religious viewpoint be the source of restricting an individual’s ability to participate fully in society. He recommended that the government take on a “duty to consult” religious communities before it creates anti racism and discrimination policies and that such policies should incorporate “accommodation” as a prime outcome. Lastly, he recommended the creation of an ombudsman position to mediate between the government and faith-based communities. In closing, he said that Trinity Western is an example of religious and systemic discrimination in Canada. The situation is getting worse and it shouldn’t be. This is not the open and inclusive Canada that used to be.
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, stated that the unintended consequences of M-103 need to be considered. Concentrating on “Islamophobia”, for example, is a move in the wrong direction and will result in more, not less, divisiveness. The Muslim community should not be coddled but, rather, treated as is every other community on the national landscape – this approach best ensures harmony. His organization believes in the separation of mosque and state and that the best way to defeat radical Islamism is to defeat the ideology that thrives within Islamic regimes. In these regimes and like-minded organizations, including those allied to the author of M-103, Islamophobia is used as a weapon to restrict free speech. He felt that the prime victim in using Islamophobia as an evil to be defeated would be Muslims themselves as they would be afraid to pursue the reforms that Islam is in need of. He went on to state that the founding premises of M-103, as established in petition E-411, actually smack of the language and logic posited by the Islamic theocracies that are currently creating so much havoc in the world. He recommended that western governments stop the “Countering Violent Extremism” strategy and replace it with one that “counters Violent Islamism”. Along these same lines, he suggested the government needs to stop taking the Organization of Islamic Cooperation and Muslim Brotherhood groups as allies and begin communicating with, and empowering, reform groups that seek to break Islam from the fossilized grasp of jihadism and salafism. Mr. Jasser was questioned aggressively by MP Virani who noted that Mr. Jasser mentioned Raheel Raza as an ally and that she was affiliated with the “Rebel” media. He left Mr. Jasser with no time to answer. MP Anderson upbraided MP Virani on his treatment of the witness and Mr. Jasser concluded by observing that MP Virani was, in effect, discriminating against him on the basis of association.
Muainudin Ahmed, Director, Muslim Food Bank and Community Services Society, noted that his organization interfaced daily with religious minorities and was well aware of the discrimination they face – particularly Muslim women wearing the hijab. The number one recommendation that he thought would make a difference in countering such discrimination was the re-direction of government funds to community organizations.
Azim Dahya, Chief Executive Officer, Muslim Food Bank and Community Services Society, was available for questioning but did not testify.
Balpreet Singh, Legal Counsel (by videoconference: Mississauga, Ontario), World Sikh Organization of Canada, stated that his organization supported M-103 and the notion that Islamophobia was discriminatory and needed to be countered. He noted that those in the Sikh community were the object of discrimination on a regular basis. He believed that secularism was required to ensure no one religion would be placed above all others but he also noted that all religions need equal space in the public square. He believed statistics and data would be important in identifying the scope of the problem and what needed to be done.
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